Trust the people? Nah

by thoughtfulconservative

Two under this topic.

First from the Chicago Tribune via the Waukesha Freeman.

So much for trusting voters. Illinois Democrats want nothing to do with that now.

Amid the ugliness of the arrest last week of Gov. Rod Blagojevich, the political class in Illinois seemed to share one noble sentiment: The choice of a U.S. Senate successor to Barack Obama should be handed to voters. The choice should not be left to the governor, not in light of the charges that Blagojevich tried to sell the seat to the highest bidder.

But then Democratic leaders had a revelation: They could lose that election!

Whoa! Trust the voters? That would be dangerous.

So Democratic leaders have backed away from holding a special election. The Illinois House buried the idea Monday and left Springfield until next month.

Yes, the oft named “party of the people.”

Next from the Los Angeles Times.

Reporting from San Francisco and Los Angeles — California Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown asked the state Supreme Court on Friday to invalidate the voter-approved ban on gay marriage, declaring that “the amendment process cannot be used to extinguish fundamental constitutional rights without compelling justification.”

“Government of the people, by the people, for the people?”

Bah, humbug.

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4 Comments to “Trust the people? Nah”

  1. RE the gay marriage amendment… would you likewise think it ok to restrict the free speech rights of gays, or African Americans, or some other group, as long as it was voted on and approved by the majority of people?

    We all agree that democracy means voting by the people, but at some point, there is a thing called the tyranny of the majority, where majority rule can be used to push down minority rights for no reason other than… well… who knows.

  2. First off, I voted against the amendment here. That settled, my point is not exactly that either Illinois might elect a Rep. Senator or that the California amendment is good.

    But if you don’t care what the people think, why put it to a vote at all?

    I’m not so sure I believe that there is a tyranny of the majority, but I do know that we have an oligarchy where a few, in this case the Illinois Democrats and the California AG with the state Supreme Court, is going to decide what the law should be.

    Again, if you don’t want the people to have a say, don’t put it to a vote. If you put it to a vote, you have to be willing to face the consequences.

  3. “Again, if you don’t want the people to have a say, don’t put it to a vote. If you put it to a vote, you have to be willing to face the consequences.”

    The problem is, the ones who’s rights were restricted DIDN’T put it to a vote… and they’re the ones who have to face the consequences. The ones who did decide to put it to a vote weren’t effected by the result… and they were in the majority.

    Remember, it was the people who wanted to ban gay marriage who put the ammendment to a vote.

  4. But who made the laws that allowed assinine stuff like this to be put on the ballot. Too often, legislatures who are too timid to stand up for something and do their job makes these loopholes so the people can “have a voice.”

    Have many other states have the chance for initiatives like CA? I don’t know the exact procedure in CA, maybe you do, but it sure seems like they have a lot of these “propositions.” The legislature wanted the people to have the opportunity. Now some people don’t like that. No one complains about the people having a say when they like the outcome.

    So, again, it goes back to if you don’t like the results, change the law.

    We have a representative democracy, but too many times legislatures don’t like to make decisions. They want to punt and “let the people have a say.”

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