Great minds think alike?

June 22, 2007 — Dean

Carlson cartoon
Cartoon by Stuart Carlson, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Thompson cartoon
Cartoon by Mike Thompson, Copley

Interesting, no?

Posted in George W. Bush, Political cartoons.

10 Responses to “Great minds think alike?”

  1. Peter Says:
    July 8, 2007 at 8:27 am

    Nice how in the minds of the Left innocent human life is equated with jihadists. How do they sleep at night? Simple: lack of a conscience.

  2. thoughtfulconservative Says:
    July 13, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    Good point.

  3. GWHSgov Says:
    October 11, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    i quite agree. its pretty sad to think that killing INNOCENT embreyos who haven’t yet even had the chance to live and are forced into death w/o even at stab a life is okay, and waging just war on terrorizing jihadists who enjoy blowing up themselves and other INNOCENT lives is not okay. pro life: saving millions of [innocent] unborn babies’s lives. pro war: saving millions of [innocent] victims of terrorists. huh. see the logic??

  4. thoughtfulconservative Says:
    October 12, 2007 at 11:13 pm

    Thanks for that.

  5. John Booth Says:
    December 3, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    I guess what confuses me about the logic you are attempting to employ is that you have effectively stratified the worth of life in your definition of murder. The death of a stem cell is tantamount to unacceptable murder while murdering an Iraqi is acceptable. You would argue here that the Iraqis in effect simply killing “terrorizing jihadists who enjoy blowing up themselves and other INNOCENT lives”. What you left out is all of the innocent Iraqis that have died as collateral damage in this war who somehow don’t fit into your world view as being capable of a level of innocence on par with a stem cell. Moreover, simply by acknowledging that murder itself isn’t inherently immoral depending upon the circumstances undermines your argument. How you succeed in bridging the logic gap would be fascinating to learn.

  6. thoughtfulconservative Says:
    December 3, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Actually I expressed no opinion except to note how two different cartoonists employed similar imagery into their cartoons.

    But let me ask the question, then. Do we avoid going to war whenever there is a possibility of “collateral damage”? Or just this particular war?

  7. Zach Says:
    December 6, 2007 at 11:16 am

    I think its funny when people watch the news, and don’t open their eyes, if you weren’t blind to lies and yellow journalism, you would see the lives of Iraqis that have either been saved or improved because of what we have done. what most people don’t realize is that we as a nation will not let fear of terrorism control us, we will not let fear take hold of our everyday lives, we need to stand up as one nation and show the world what the difference between taking action and doing nothing but talk. talk is well and good if it saves lives but talk will not work for extremists who take pleasure in lying to us. I digressed from the meaning of this comment, sorry for that.

  8. John Booth Says:
    December 7, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    To thoughtfulconservative:

    “Actually I expressed no opinion except to note how two different cartoonists employed similar imagery into their cartoons.”

    I never implied that you did express an opinion, and that wasn’t intended for you. If you reread the post, you’ll see that I both addressed and quoted the post prior to mine (GWHSgov). He/she was simultaneously making a point regarding respecting the sanctity of life while contradicting him/herself.

    With respect to this forum in general, I greatly enjoy your site. While I disagree with a number of your views, you on the whole don’t fall victim to the kind of petty sensationalism and convenient oversimplification which dogs the majority of both liberal and conservative blogs.

  9. thoughtfulconservative Says:
    December 7, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    My apologies, then John Booth. I see that you are correct. And thanks for your kind comments about my blog.

  10. cameron mclinden Says:
    January 20, 2008 at 12:50 am

    Just came across this and was greatly disturbed to the comments posted!

    My God.

    The Stem Cell Research Bill vetoed by Bush would have supported funding into the science of studying discarded stem cells which will not EVER be used in “creating life.” Though there are all sorts of moral tie-ins and relevances to the overall topic, I don’t know what you all heard, but the bill would not have interfered with a single bit with your moral, pro-life based ideals.

    Additionally, funding the war in Iraq is NOT funding for resistance to “terrorist jihadists.” Sure it makes you feel better believing that, but I’m sorry to break it to ya. Firstly, according to press statements from the Bush administration, the war in Iraq was NOT a war against Al Qaeda or the Taliban (which, neither, have any evidence of being present or in any power situation in Iraq. The purpose was to remove Sadaam Hussein from power, find “wmd’s,” and setup a democracy in the country. The only “terrorist” connection is a presumed connection between Sadaam and Al Qaeda. This, however, has been confirmed to have had NO evidence, and even if they WERE like brothers, per se, after the removal of Sadaam and the “liberation” of Iraq, they no longer had any reason to be there as that would accomplish the goal of extinguishing a “safe haven” for these terrorists.

    Who they are fighting are, yes, mainly muslims, just as when we fought in WWII there were mainly “Christians” we fought against. Their religion is coincidence, the ability to kill many people isn’t religion-driven as we’d like to think when we blurt out “jihadist muslims,” and if it does than I call upon you to recall the Crusades, when Christians went on a killing spree that is STILL unrivaled by any other religion and proudly proclaimed in the name of (the Christian) God. No, these people are fighting the policing of the nation they’ve been living in, just as you would do if an atheist came into your house with a gun and told you they didn’t agree with you having your child read the bible, so they hold you up and tell you how to act. If you had access to a gun in that moment, how would you react?

    Same situation, but you can argue that an atheist is not as “good” as a christian, but even if that were provably true, the principle is what angers these people because they DO NOT see it your way. They were raised differently.

    Lastly, this war failed in (admitted by the administration in press releases) making any connection between Sadaam and Al Qaeda or even the entire nation of Iraq and Al Qaeda, failed in finding any evidence of even PROGRESS in making “wmd’s” (the little evidence used to fuel support for the war was later retracted as true by the administration itself) and in successfully developing a democracy there. So the funding for this, which has killed thousands of our troops and injured many more, not only intrinsically killed alot of our beloved Christian, Islamic, Jewish etc. troops who are NOT “Jihadist Terrorists,” but also has killed many who just don’t think we are foremost there earnestly for the well-being of their people. Instead, they see other reasons for us being there and resent it, and fueled by many other things that tell them internally to take up arms against those that they feel are raping them of their liberties or right to create their own government and nation through revolution and civil war (something America did to create and maintain our great nation), they fight back. Gee. Wiz. Who’da Thunk it?

    So vetoes on stem cells are in fear of POSSIBLE abuse in the future with future laws that COULD support pro-choice ideals yet, save many people with serious, nearly incurable diseases are in no way near as legitimate as vetoes on a war which is claiming many lives.

    Even if you completely disagree with ALL OF THIS, and all stem cell research was compared to all collateral damage casualties of war thus far in this war, more lives of innocent people were STILL lost in the war, and NO dying American lives saved on account of them, as might happen with furthering in scientific-medicine through stem-cell research. Imagine if we hampered science in creating past medicines, one’s 10 year old daughter may fight influenza to her death in average households around the modern day world.

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